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I saw this on another site. Thought you guys would find it interesting.
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060905/BREAKINGNEWS/60905003
Billy may be in trouble...
If he was under the influence, they should lock him up, and throw away the key.
Influence or not, passing on a double yellow should get the book thrown at him.
Yup, no excuses at all, he’ll probably hang for this one. Its his fault all the way, passing two cars over the double yellow. My money’s on that he was under the influence; holiday evening, young chicky with him. Anyway, he will lose a lot over this one, after the state gets done with him, then the guy’s family will sue the hell out of him.
Not to mention the Discovery Channel will drop him like a hot potato.
Another celebrity with more money than common sense...
I just scanned the article, and didn't read about the double yellows.
Also, a man DIED, because of that jerk.
If you have any Choppers, INC. stuff, hang on to it. It's gonna' become rare.
:usaflag:
Aaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!
Why dont your attachments thingy work????????????????????????
I friggen give up.
The 9 p.m. accident involving the 36-year-old Lane, the owner of the Melbourne-based Choppers Inc. and a resident of Melbourne Beach, occurred on State Road A1A south of Melbourne Beach near the intersection of Ballyshannon Street. Florida Highway Patrol investigators said Lane was trying to pass two other vehicles on a double yellow-lined portion of A1A when his southbound 2006 Dodge Ram pickup collided with a northbound 1983 Yamaha moped.
Double yellow. Need I say more.
Thomasj61
09-06-2006, 06:40
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/w4egv/bilde.jpg
He did it good...
Sadley I can't say I'm shocked by the careless driving. I would hope he wasn't over the legal limit when it happened but somehow I have my doubts. It's a damn shame for all involved. Our prayers are with the victim's family.
COFatBoy
09-06-2006, 04:34
Sadley I can't say I'm shocked by the careless driving. I would hope he wasn't over the legal limit when it happened but somehow I have my doubts. It's a damn shame for all involved. Our prayers are with the victim's family.
Ditto, thoughts and prayers to Gerald Morelock's family and friends.
Tireater
09-11-2006, 06:47
I found out the hard way that in Cali. you can turn left across double lines if there is a driveway to turn into. On a birthday run with 50 people - 2 women crashed right behind me when they tried to catch the pack on a straight away after slowing for corners - when the front of the pack was stopping around the corner due to a car turning left over double lines. DEAD STOP AROUND A BLIND CORNER !
holobach
09-18-2006, 08:46
Prayers to the family thats the number one priority for sure.
Always felt Billy was living on the edge when watching Biker Buildoff. Met him at the show here in Atlanta was totally pleasant and polite to the wife and my girls.
97-FXSTSB
09-18-2006, 09:06
Lane is guilty of doing to someone exactly what every rider fears. What a f*ckin jerk.
Lane is guilty of doing to someone exactly what every rider fears. What a f*ckin jerk.
AMEN!!!!
:usaflag:
MyHeritage
09-19-2006, 06:31
Billy just flushed his life down the crapper big time. He won't have two nickles to rub together, or any dignity left after the legal system is done chew'n on him.
97-FXSTSB
09-19-2006, 09:42
I see the media writing about "Celebrity Bike Builder Injured In Accident" but it should be more like "Bike Builder Billy Lane Kills Innocent Motorcyclist".
Dyna Jim
09-20-2006, 05:01
I contacted the reporter who wrote the article last week and offered for CycleChat to take up collections for the victims family. He said he would pass it on to the proper people but I've heard nothing yet. Do you think they don't want Biker aid maybe? I'm confused why we can't help makeup for one of our own... :drunk:
Anyways if anyone hears different let me know.
DJ
pigletFXDI
09-20-2006, 06:36
I contacted the reporter who wrote the article last week and offered for CycleChat to take up collections for the victims family. He said he would pass it on to the proper people but I've heard nothing yet. Do you think they don't want Biker aid maybe? I'm confused why we can't help makeup for one of our own... :drunk:
Anyways if anyone hears different let me know.
DJ
doesn't meet requirements for inflammatory journalism. too bad; perhaps bark up another tree? SOMEBODY'S gotta be in the area..... :2cents:
Markster6828
09-20-2006, 12:12
I contacted the reporter who wrote the article last week and offered for CycleChat to take up collections for the victims family. He said he would pass it on to the proper people but I've heard nothing yet. Do you think they don't want Biker aid maybe? I'm confused why we can't help makeup for one of our own... :drunk:
Anyways if anyone hears different let me know.
DJ
Jim
This Shawn Chambers is a mod at club chopper and is heading up their drive. He's in Phoenix and appearantly has contact info.
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/showthread.php?p=482300#post482300
MyHeritage
09-21-2006, 12:12
This is a link to an article written about the accident victim. I feel really sad for this dude's family and friends.
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060907/NEWS01/609070331
Markster6828
09-25-2006, 12:58
The wheels of justice begin to turn............
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060925/BREAKINGNEWS/60925014
97-FXSTSB
09-25-2006, 01:23
A blood alcohol level of .19, killed a guy, a suspended license, and a bond of $15,000?? Those wheels of justice turn awfully slow. Here in So Cal, a basic DUI gets mandatory jail time and a bond much higher than that.
NCFatBoy
09-25-2006, 01:38
A blood alcohol level of .19, killed a guy, a suspended license, and a bond of $15,000?? Those wheels of justice turn awfully slow. Here in So Cal, a basic DUI gets mandatory jail time and a bond much higher than that.
I'd say they gave Billy quite a break, wonder what bail will be.....
04RdKing
09-25-2006, 01:52
I'd say they gave Billy quite a break, wonder what bail will be.....
Bail is typically 10%
Mint Deuce
09-25-2006, 02:01
I have to say that $15,000 is a joke for bail for all of those charges. But on the other hand it always seems that when a big names person gets in trouble with the law its never as bad as if one of us gor locked up Don't seem right too me
NCFatBoy
09-25-2006, 04:56
I hadn't read the whole story, 15K bail.
hefitz04wg
09-26-2006, 08:06
15k is pretty cheap. Around here it'll cost you 20k bail for killing a deer out of season.
In the big picture though it wouldn't matter if it was $1 million bail. He would still post it and walk out.
However, his money might not be enough to get him out of this mess. Even if you take the blood alcohol level out of the equation. He busted the double yellow (illegal), pulled a double pass (illeagal), caused a head on colision (illegal), and killed someone (Illegal)! Do you have to be drunk before it becomes criminal??
FLSTCI124ci
09-26-2006, 02:42
Guess we'll see if money and celebrity status talks... I've met Billy Lane at Steel Pony and in Daytona & he seemed a great guy both times. But as the saying goes: : One "Oh ****" takes away allot of "Atta boys!"...
Condolences to the family of the victim and I'm quite sure Billy Lane will live a lifetime regretting something he probably doesn't even remember too clearly...
Semper Gumby
MyHeritage
10-04-2006, 05:32
Should have never swapped out the scoot for the truck that night. Hell...he should'nt have been driving anything! He played against the odds and lost it all.
And your right about Lane being a nice guy flstci124ci. Iv'e met him also...his shop is only 40 minutes north of me. Your also right about him spending the rest of his life in regret...regretting the first drink he had on that day. It's bad all the way around for everyone involved.
Thanks for sharing the floridatoday link Markster.
97-FXSTSB
10-04-2006, 06:02
Lane shouldn't have been driving at all on a suspended license. Sorry but I think this guy deserves to go down hard for this. It could've been me or you that he plowed into, just so he could get a girl half his age home to bed. He was a nice guy because he was makin' money. He's due in court tomorrow for his first drunk-driving case...the one that obviously didn't teach him a thing.
NCFatBoy
10-04-2006, 06:13
Lane shouldn't have been driving at all on a suspended license.
Amen to that.
pigletFXDI
10-05-2006, 07:20
apparently fame and $ don't equal good judgement, and many times the latter disappears as the ego grows. so sad for the victim's family and friends....I don't think anyone should get off for any reason.
MyHeritage
10-05-2006, 04:30
Amen 97-FXSTSB
:toilet: BILLY LANE :wiz:
http://www.cyclespot.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/Harley_0022.jpg
Mint Deuce
10-06-2006, 07:22
HERES AN UPDATE I FOUND THIS MORNING
Custom motorcycle builder and TV personality Billy Lane, appearing Thursday in a North Carolina court, was found not guilty of driving a motorcycle while intoxicated after a three-hour trial before a judge.
Lane had refused to take a Breathalyzer test after being stopped in June. The refusal forced the suspension of his driver's license, but also left prosecutors without any evidence to present in a Rowan County court.
Lane's attorney, James Davis, called several witnesses who testified that Lane drank only one beer that night in North Carolina.
Lane, however, still faces DUI and "driving with a suspended license causing a death" charges in Brevard County after a Sept. 4 head-on crash on State Road A1A that left a motorcycle rider dead.
Because his license was revoked in North Carolina, he had lost his right to drive in Florida at the time of the fatal accident.
"Regardless of the outcome in North Carolina, he was still driving with a suspended license when he got involved in the crash at Brevard County," said Sgt. Michael Brown of the Florida Highway Patrol."We have our own case," Brown said. "The investigators are confident they have a good case against Mr. Lane."
The victim's family was stunned by the decision.
"Oh, God," said Morelock's brother, Byron, a financial consultant. "This is unbelievable. I swore to my boy, 'This ain't gonna happen here.' "
"This is a joke," he said. "This guy killed my brother. I'm disappointed in (North) Carolina."
Florida Highway Patrol Homicide Investigator Sgt. Channing Taylor said that Lane, who had been at two bars before the accident, was attempting to pass three cars at night on a double-yellow line when he hit a mini-Yamaha driven by Sebastian Inlet Park Ranger Gerald Morelock.
The accident severed Morelock's leg and sent his body flying to the pavement. Taylor said he died instantly.
Lane, who was injured along with his passenger, 22-year-old Erin Derrick, submitted to a blood alcohol test after being told he had no choice, but did not give a statement to investigators.
The test showed Lane had a blood-alcohol level of .192, more than twice the legal limit of .08.
His attorney in Brevard, Kepler Funk, said he is investigating the incident as he prepares for trial.
"Things aren't always what they appear," Funk said. "Just because somebody gets accused of something doesn't mean they did what they're accused of doing."
Kaustav Basu contributed to this report. Contact Moore at 321-480-5166 or kmoore@flatoday.net.
GirlRacer
10-06-2006, 07:41
I can't even imagine the sadness, disappointment and anger the Morelock's must be feeling. Truly sad.
usa591313
10-06-2006, 09:24
It is a very sad thing to have lost Gerald Morelock, to somebody drunk driving and or passing on double yellow lines. I pray for the families's loss. Yes Billy Lane should get charged for what he did, just like anyone else regardless of their money status. The whole bail thing, was it enough?.... who knows, who cares, it will never bring back Gerald Morelock regardless. God Rest His Soul.....
The whole crossing double yellow lines, drunk driving, like anybody on this chat has never done that...! It was stupid, it is stupid. I know that I have made some pretty bad F**ked up decisions, like speeding in traffic on my motorcycle, splitting cars when I get impatient, because some of them like riding right next to another car for miles, instead of just passing and getting out of the fast lane. I know that when I do this or any other stupid thing ( I am human), but if cause a wreck or get in one, I deserve the punishment. I am sure someone in here has done this!!!How about driving drunk, nobody...... in here has never done that have they, unless you just don't drink. I have only had a couple of beers..... I am ok to drive! (BULL****) Anybody heard that or said that before? YES.. I hope Gerald Morelock is riding in the most beautiful place in heaven as some of us say things about a situation, like they have never made any mistakes! Just remember people, it is always bad when someone dies on account of one of our stupid things we do....in this case the life of Gerald Morelock
97-FXSTSB
10-06-2006, 09:41
I'm still sickened by the number of people who show sympathy and "pray for Billy Lane"... I don't hate him personally, I hate people who have no regard for others, especially on the road. He is one of those people. Lane chose to step into the spotlight to build bikes. In doing so he steps in front of the public eye, so there's an obligation to assume more responsibility than the average rider. He could have accepted that responsibility and really helped the custom bike industry and image. Instead, he killed a man and showed the public that bikers are a bunch of drunken, drug-using girl-chasing idiots. So if I take a personal grudge against Lane hope the worst for him, I have my reasons.
Mint Deuce
10-06-2006, 09:43
Yes people do make mistakes and do stupid things I know I have done them It seems to me that Mr. Lane kepps making the same stupid mistake and not learning anything from. I am not saying that he should not have his day in court after all this is America but on the other hand if the person keeps doing the same things all the time then they should not be allowed to keep driving.
97-FXSTSB
10-06-2006, 09:50
And if by some twisted act of justice Lane walks free on the DUI manslaughter, I will never buy or wear Choppers Inc. or any product associated with Lane.
pigletFXDI
10-06-2006, 12:25
amen to that, brother. :2cents:
flstc2000
10-06-2006, 12:46
And if by some twisted act of justice Lane walks free on the DUI manslaughter, I will never buy or wear Choppers Inc. or any product associated with Lane.
On the other hand, if he is convicted his stuff will be worth alot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ :evilgrin:
Yeah, but what will his back side be worth in Prison!
Billy needs to be a man,admit his mistake, and take his punishment.
modelmaker
10-07-2006, 06:04
Billy Lane has no choice at this point but to attempt to defend himself... He made a very bad mistake, all stemming from poor judgement while intoxicated. Where were his friends? They maybe ought to have some explaining to do as well. This a situation that is horrible for all involved, no doubt, it is horrible. I'm sure that Billy Lane is beating himself up serverely for his bad judgement, and horrific mistake. I'm not really a fan of Billy Lane except for the fact that he made a successful livlihood of custom motorcycles, but he didn't escape the 'hot-dog' attitude.
Bill C.
Mint Deuce
10-20-2006, 10:23
Celebrity motorcycle builder Billy Lane has pleaded not guilty to DUI manslaughter in the Labor Day accident that left a Melbourne Beach man dead.
The state attorney's office on Thursday formally charged Lane with the second-degree felony. If convicted, he faces a maximum 15 years in prison.
The state attorney's office is continuing its investigation and could tack on additional charges.
"There is a possibility of other charges, but it doesn't substantially change his exposure," said Assistant State Attorney Wayne Holmes. "It's a serious offense."
Lane was arrested by Florida Highway Patrol investigators on Sept. 25 in connection with a Labor Day accident that left Melbourne Beach resident Gerald Morelock dead. Police said that Lane's blood-alcohol level was more than twice the legal limit.
In anticipation of the official charges, Lane's attorney Kepler Funk filed a written plea of not guilty with the courts and a demand for a trial. According to the Clerk of Courts Web site, Lane is due in court at 9 a.m. Oct. 27 in front of Judge A.B. Majeed for a first appearance. But Funk also filed a waiver of appearance, meaning Lane will not be in court that day.
"The most important thing to remember is that a human being died in this accident, and it's a tragedy that Mr. Lane feels every day," Funk said, adding that when first arrested, Lane was facing 25 years in prison. "This decision is not a surprise to me. I've been in contact with the state attorney's office on numerous occasions regarding this case, and I look forward to continued dialogue to resolve this case."
Lane, who owns a shop called Choppers Inc. in Melbourne, originally was charged by the Florida Highway Patrol with driving under the influence manslaughter, driving with his license suspended and driving under the influence with serious bodily injuries.
The fact that the state only filed one charge against Lane puzzled the victim's brother, Byron Morelock of Indialantic.
"I want him charged appropriately," he said. "I hope they don't drop the ball."
Investigators said the wreck occurred Sept. 4 after Lane crossed a double yellow line on State Road A1A south of Melbourne Beach to pass several other vehicles before striking Morelock, who was riding a 1983 Yamaha motorcycle.
droopy73
10-20-2006, 10:36
Nice, did you read the part about "resolve this case". How in the h### can you resolve a dead guy? Anybody thinking settlement $$$$$$. Hope they fry his a**!
NCFatBoy
10-20-2006, 07:50
Nice, did you read the part about "resolve this case". How in the h### can you resolve a dead guy? Anybody thinking settlement $$$$$$. Hope they fry his a**!
Settlement $$ will be for the civil suit, not the criminal...
droopy73
10-23-2006, 10:57
Yea, I know, but it still po's me to no end.
FLSTCI124ci
10-29-2006, 06:18
Any updates to this mess???
97-FXSTSB
10-29-2006, 06:36
last I read, the great state of florida dropped 2 of the 3 charges including 3rd degree felony driving on a suspended license resulting in death, and 3rd dgree felony DUI resulting in serious bodily injury. only the 2nd degree felony DUI manslaughter charge remains. seems Lane's money has already gotten him out of doing severe time in the pen
Unreal!
If he walks I hope no-one buys any more of his overpriced rub crap.
Billy Lane is a jerk, and always was a jerk.
He gives all of us, a bad name.
I hope they fry his butt.
But, he'll probably buy his way out of this.
I hope he rots in Hell. :wiz:
pigletFXDI
10-30-2006, 04:59
ditto
to those who don't know us, he does.
somebody in fla DOC needs a girlfriend.....
where's MADD in all this?
he will. :mad1:
pigletFXDI
10-30-2006, 05:05
from 97's post on the vegas show....
"BTW, anyone who's been following the Billy Lane case, he's also scheduled to be appearing. I'll be sure to give him a hearty #*^%!!"
like your style, mon... :thumb:
Brevardian
11-17-2006, 12:08
.Taken from the Florida Today newspaper:
November 14, 2006
Crash victim also impaired
Autopsy findings will not affect prosecution of Lane, attorney says
BY JOHN A. TORRES
FLORIDA TODAY
State park ranger Gerry Morelock -- killed in a Labor Day wreck involving motorcycle builder Billy Lane -- apparently also was driving under the influence, according to autopsy results.
But Assistant State Attorney Wayne Holmes said those blood test results should have no bearing on how the state prosecutes Lane for DUI manslaughter -- a second-degree felony that could land the celebrity biker in prison for 15 years.
While Holmes would not comment on the test results, he pointed to established Florida case law.
"For many years, the general focus of the law has been on the driver of the vehicle that causes the accident," he said. "We will be relying on state law."
A blood test, ordered by Florida Highway Patrol officers investigating the accident, revealed that Morelock's blood alcohol content was .133. Police say Lane, who survived the crash, had a .192 blood alcohol content -- or more than twice the legal limit of .08.
He was formally charged Oct. 19.
Lane's attorney, Kepler Funk, said Morelock's autopsy result was not unexpected.
"This fact is not a surprise to my office and we continue to investigate the case with a fine-toothed comb," he said.
pigletFXDI
11-17-2006, 04:54
yep - look at that skirt she was wearin' - she was askin' for it.....:2guns:
thanks for the update - keep them coming!
droopy73
11-17-2006, 12:21
May Bubba can teach him some respect.
pigletFXDI
11-17-2006, 12:24
they love little boys with an attitude...........
droopy73
11-17-2006, 12:31
they love little boys with an attitude...........
And no front teeth. But they can take of that small problem.
pigletFXDI
11-17-2006, 12:56
those little guys are the most popular. meth mouth has done more for carnal relationships in michigans penal system than ..........
geez, sorry. i'm a lady, i really am.
MyHeritage
11-17-2006, 01:20
My best guess:
Suspended or revoked DL + house arrest with ankle bracelet for 1 year max.
Then probation for 10 years.
Life is good if you can afford it.
My best guess:
Suspended or revoked DL + house arrest with ankle bracelet for 1 year max.
Then probation for 10 years.
Life is good if you can afford it.
Yep, the guy who killed my parents in a car wreck (drunk of course) got probation, he went on to have 2 more fatality dui's. I think he finally died of old age - never went to jail for any extended period.
MyHeritage
11-17-2006, 01:29
Billy Lane is a jerk, and always was a jerk.
He gives all of us, a bad name.
I hope they fry his butt.
But, he'll probably buy his way out of this.
I hope he rots in Hell. :wiz:
So Rick.... are you saying that you DON'T like Billy?
:2guns: BILLY LANE:wiz:
pigletFXDI
11-17-2006, 03:06
geez 07 - i'm sorry.
my bro has served 30 years w/draining osteo from the same type of thing -
in those days, they walked.
hang 'em high. :lightingz
I like the Bubba/no front teeth option, a lot more.
Lane is a jerk.
pigletFXDI
11-17-2006, 07:01
that's a given if he goes down.
which he should.
we'll all be safer then....
So Rick.... are you saying that you DON'T like Billy?
:2guns: BILLY LANE:wiz:
Even during the biker build offs, he was always shown, drunk, and stupid.
Plus, remember the two carbed bike, with the triple primary chain, and how he almost had to forfeit?
On his last one, the tank was leaking like a sieve.
So, drunk, mediocre bike builder. What's not to like?
Plus, he killed a motorcyclist. It could have been any one of us.
Saw a T-shirt once. Said "Instant A$$HOLE-JUST ADD ALCOHOL"
Gettin' off of the soapbox, now.
Oh, yeah, back to your original question. NO, I don't.:thumbsdow
:usaflag:
Yep, the guy who killed my parents in a car wreck (drunk of course) got probation, he went on to have 2 more fatality dui's. I think he finally died of old age - never went to jail for any extended period.
I don't know what to say, except that I'm truly sorry for your loss.
It's time for drunk drivers to be treated as what they really are....
potential murderers.:cussing:
:usaflag:
97-FXSTSB
11-18-2006, 09:17
[QUOTE=rickthedeuce;36852]I don't know what to say, except that I'm truly sorry for your loss.
It's time for drunk drivers to be treated as what they really are....
potential murderers.
Ditto that for me. I don't know Lane but I'd put him in the jerk category based on what I see. The guy can show up at Biketoberfest but not for court. He can swig whiskey during a burnout but can't man up to his crime. He can pay for lawyers and specialists but can't offer compensation to the Morelock family... :growl:
droopy73
11-20-2006, 07:06
You know, one of these years we are going to get collectively pi**ed off enough at killing people with 2000 lb weapons, all the while screeming about our right to drive no matter what, and start passing out sentences that mean something. Ask our friends from Europe what their laws are.
I am truly sorry for 07fatboy's loss, and even more sick about the outcome for the bastard who did it.
Bubba's too good for em!
MyHeritage
11-20-2006, 07:35
Even during the biker build offs, he was always shown, drunk, and stupid.
Plus, remember the two carbed bike, with the triple primary chain, and how he almost had to forfeit?
On his last one, the tank was leaking like a sieve.
Remember when his seat caught fire on a trip with Jesse James:wiz: and Indian Larry to a biker buildoff event?
Remember when his seat caught fire on a trip with Jesse James:wiz: and Indian Larry to a biker buildoff event?
Yeah, I forgot about that one. Had to cram aluminum foil under the seat, to keep his dumb a$$ from catching fire, again.
Drink up, Billy.
:usaflag:
Thug1976
11-20-2006, 06:34
I feel bad, but I'm coming from a different angle. At least they know who did it. His picture is on the side of the truck. He blows anyway, Indian Larry had to help him get his $hit runnin. Something about him just wasn't cool to me.
Yeah, Indian Larry whipped his a$$, every time they went up against each other.
We lost a good one, when Indian Larry went down.:angel3:
:usaflag:
GGazbsaa
11-30-2006, 12:26
As a brit member, watching him across the pond, ithought he was pretty cool, but after reading some articals about him and what has happened, i have come to the conclusion the blokes a jerk.
See ya later chaps/chapesses.
GGazbsaa.
97-FXSTSB
11-30-2006, 12:41
An accurate conclusion, I'd say. May he fade away into obscurity.
Thug1976
11-30-2006, 03:48
Billy Lane is going to have his first interview since the mess tonight on Sirius satellite radio, for anyone that cares... He will be on with Scott Ferrall on Howard 101 (channel 101) at 8:00 pm. Apparently he was getting a favor from a "lady" at the time of the incident....
GGazbsaa
11-30-2006, 03:51
Evening chaps , well it is here, i put a message on the forum the other day, asking how on earth do i get a picture of me hog on here? any kind soul out there able to help. CHEERS.
All the best Ggazbsaa.
NCFatBoy
11-30-2006, 04:05
Evening chaps , well it is here, i put a message on the forum the other day, asking how on earth do i get a picture of me hog on here? any kind soul out there able to help. CHEERS.
All the best Ggazbsaa.
Take a look Here (http://www.cyclespot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2522&highlight=image+post)
Use the search function.. it works.. ;)
pigletFXDI
12-01-2006, 07:39
Billy Lane is going to have his first interview since the mess tonight on Sirius satellite radio, for anyone that cares... He will be on with Scott Ferrall on Howard 101 (channel 101) at 8:00 pm. Apparently he was getting a favor from a "lady" at the time of the incident....
know a guy who got his unit nearly bitten off that way.
bet it wasn't worth it.....
impairment is impairment.
circulatory diversion or not. :smash:
still a blowhard. did i say that out loud? :ignore:
MyHeritage
12-02-2006, 12:09
Yeah, Indian Larry whipped his a$$, every time they went up against each other.
We lost a good one, when Indian Larry went down.:angel3:
:usaflag:
I had the pleasure of meeting and talking to Indian Larry in Daytona a few years ago. He took the time to allow me to photograph him with my son (who is a big I.L. fan) and answer all of our stupid questions with a smile. I was admiring his gold-leafed "Ratfink" custom and commenting on the awesome old school style he was famous for. He say's to me "so ya like the bike do ya?" I say's "man, it's beautiful!" Then he told me it was for sale and I could take it home for $75K. What freaked me was that he said it in a very matter-of-fact way... he didn't laugh at me after he said it with that "don't you wish you had access to that kind of cash you freak'n dreamer" look on his face. I got good vibes from him...a genuinely nice guy. Ever wanted to be a RUB? Well I did... just for one lousy day.
The Tourist
12-02-2006, 11:19
i have come to the conclusion the blokes a jerk
You don't have to fill out an eHarmony.com profile to buy a Harley. You plunk your money down, and voila, you are an HD owner.
Like all other sections of society, we have the good and the bad.
What helps me with this incident is that it has pretty much been condemned by most bikers.
It's no longer a macho thing to down six shots of SoCo and cruise home hitting every mailbox along the way.
ScreaminSpringerDude
12-02-2006, 03:33
So how did the Sirius interview go.. What were his pathetic excuses, and how could he possibly defend his "not guilty" plea?
i know this is old news //nut has anyone heard anything new on this story?
lonncarr
02-08-2007, 09:09
I clicked on the link but didnt work for me, but the truck tells the story.....this is a sad thing...Prayers for the victims family...This is bad all the way around!!!
Archangel506
02-09-2007, 09:37
I was reading an earlier post that said that Lane took the BAC test only after he was told he had no choice. This is not good!!!! The Implied Consent Law states you have the right of refusal,but you will be in violation of said law and your driving privledges will be suspended.It further states that if you do chose to take the BAC test that you have the right to an additional test(blood,breath or urine) from a licened professional at your own expense and that the arresting agency will assit you in obtaining such test. If in fact Lane was told he had no choice but to submit to the BAC test,the results of that test could possibly be supressed and not be allowed in evidence. I not saying this is right,however its a point of law. Flordia law enforcement may have screwed up. If all of this is true Lane my skate on the DUI charge. The passing on a double yellow is another matter,however its only minor compared to the DUI. We can only hope justice will prevail.
Archangel506 :mad2:
Bethel Heights PD #506
Branner_68
02-09-2007, 11:05
I was reading an earlier post that said that Lane took the BAC test only after he was told he had no choice. This is not good!!!! The Implied Consent Law states you have the right of refusal,but you will be in violation of said law and your driving privledges will be suspended.
Archangel506 :mad2:
Bethel Heights PD #506
Archangel,
In this case his license was already suspended, could that be the reason the officers told him he had no choice?
**Anyone listen to the Sirius Radio interview??**
I may or may not be heading to Daytona this year, jury duty. It would be interesting to see if he'll be drinking. When he's on stage he does, wondering if he'll be sporting some Aquafina instead...
MyHeritage
02-09-2007, 11:21
I may or may not be heading to Daytona this year, jury duty. It would be interesting to see if he'll be drinking. When he's on stage he does, wondering if he'll be sporting some Aquafina instead...
I'll be there but have NO interest in seeing Lane. If I were him, I would'nt have the nerve to show up at all!
BILLY LANE:wiz:
p.s. :barf:Tuttle, James, Yaffee:wiz:
Branner_68
02-09-2007, 11:28
Heritage,
Was thinking the same thing. I just don't feel like seeing him. I'm pulling every string I can to try to get out of jury duty. Are you close to Daytona? I'm sort of gettin' the itch to go, hope I can swing it. What are you planning for this years visit?
Archangel506
02-09-2007, 11:41
Banner:
It dosen't matter. You still have the right of refusal even if you have never had a license in any state. The law states that driving or operating a motor vehicle within that state.It say you loose you privilege to do so in that state if you violate the Implied Consent law irreguardless of your license status. Its not right but its the law. I have it happen to me on a regular basis. We have 30% Hispanic here in NW Arkansas and most have never had a drivers license. However when I stop them and have reasonalble cause to beleive that they are under the influnce of drugs or alcohol I perform a field sobreity test to determine the degree of impairment,all of which is on video with audio,that way if they refuse,which they have the right,to take a BAC test I introduce the video tape into evidence for the court to view. I've never lost a DUI case while I've been here in NW Arkansas. If you do it right the first time then you leave it up to the justice system to do the right thing.
I don't have any trouble sleeping at night. I do things by the BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!(For 35 years)
Archangel506
Nobody Dies A Virgin,Life Screws Us All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:booty:
Branner_68
02-09-2007, 01:05
Archangel,
Thanks for clearing it up. I thought that maybe if they knew his license was suspended they could nail him down while they had him.
Have a good weekend.
MyHeritage
02-09-2007, 01:06
Heritage,
Was thinking the same thing. I just don't feel like seeing him. I'm pulling every string I can to try to get out of jury duty. Are you close to Daytona? I'm sort of gettin' the itch to go, hope I can swing it. What are you planning for this years visit?
Branner,
I'm 3 hrs south of Daytona. The past 2 yrs I've passed on Daytona and attended the Leesburg event in April instead. But like you, I'm kinda get'n the itch to do Bikeweek again. I miss the madness & mayhem. One of the guy's I ride with, who has a couple of friends in Daytona, is trying to hook us up with a place to crash Saturday night. Orrrr...we might takes bags & a tent and do the Cabbage Patch. alot depends on whether or not my 'ol lady comes along. Whole different set of rules apply when she's with me!:whip: I've also gone up and back in one day...that sucks by the way. Regardless, the first weekend is what I'm interested in. Good luck on skating out of the jury duty!
Branner_68
02-09-2007, 01:15
Leesburg!?! That's where my in-laws live! It's our home base. My in-laws have been telling us for years how the Leesburg event just gets bigger and bigger. I heard it's a great event.
MyHeritage
02-09-2007, 01:47
Check it out Branner... here's the web link :banger:
http://www.leesburgbikefest.com/
bigbadbiker2007
02-22-2007, 07:59
We all make stupid mistakes, but somebody in the lime light should nobetter, but with enough money you can get out of anything.
97-FXSTSB
02-22-2007, 08:07
billy lane :wiz: is the general feeling around here
r.k.mike
02-23-2007, 02:08
My Sentiments Exactly...
r.k.mike
02-24-2007, 06:25
dont hear nothing to much about him anymore..my guess is he will fade away from the limelight until his court appearance...money does buy the best lawyres & always seem to find loopholes to get him off.time will tell.
msmudrat
02-24-2007, 07:25
I am griffed to here about this totally, but that would be normal driving in LA. Them fools don't know how to drive.
97-FXSTSB
02-24-2007, 07:36
I am griffed to here about this totally, but that would be normal driving in LA. Them fools don't know how to drive.
hey, i'm from LA :freak:
msmudrat
02-24-2007, 07:52
Sorry dude, didn't mean to offend you, but most from New Orleans area don't drive well(totally reckless), but not all drive bad there are some good drivers. Most of my close calls are down there and not around the house. Truely sorry if I offended you 97-FXSTSB
97-FXSTSB
02-24-2007, 08:13
oh my bad...you mean LA as in Loosyanna! i'm from LA Los Angeles. no offense taken though, I was jus kidding anyways!
MoxiGirl
03-20-2007, 09:56
Not sure what your rules are regarding the posting of news articles but I just wanted to pass along the latest news on Lane's case.
Civil case against Lane goes forward
Hearing date set for Monday
BY KEYONNA SUMMERS
FLORIDA TODAY
VIERA - A Brevard Circuit judge has granted new attorneys in the DUI manslaughter case of custom motorcycle builder Billy Lane time to gather evidence.
"I think Mr. Lane's eager to get this resolved," said Robert Berry, one of Lane's criminal defense lawyers. "He's holding up as well as he can when you have charges like this hanging over your head. It's tough. These cases are sad cases. You have one person who's deceased. There's just no winner in cases like this."
Lane, 37, faces 15 years in prison if convicted of DUI manslaughter in connection with the Labor Day collision that killed motorcyclist Gerald Morelock.
Lane, who was not present in court Friday, is also scheduled to face Morelock's family in August in a civil suit that seeks compensation for pain and suffering. A hearing is set for Monday afternoon.
Lane hired the firm Eisenmenger, Berry and Peters P.A. about six weeks ago, Berry said. Melbourne attorney Kepler Funk said a hearing on his motion to withdraw because of a conflict of interest will be heard April 13.
Friday, Berry asked Circuit Judge Meryl Allawas to set another court date for June 29 while his firm continues to gather evidence. Attorney Gregory Eisenmenger recently said he planned to file a court order to force the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to turn over documents containing information about Lane and Morelock's blood alcohol level the night of the crash.
Toxicology reports showed both men had alcohol in their systems, and police said Lane had visited two bars before the accident.
Meanwhile, Morelock family attorney S. Sammy Cacciatore said Lane has refused to answer questions about his driving history, when or where he met the young woman who was riding in his car the night of the crash or what they were doing immediately before on grounds the answers might incriminate him.
He has also refused to provide documentation of his agreement with Daimler Chrysler, which provided Lane with the vehicle he was driving for promotional purposes, Cacciatore said. The car company is also named in the Morelock's suit.
Jeffrey Vernis, Lane's civil attorney, could not be reached Friday for comment, but Berry said Lane does not have to answer questions in the civil case until the criminal case is completed.
"No intelligent lawyer is going to allow his client to talk especially when you have such serious (criminal) charges pending," Berry said.
The car company is also named in the Morelock's suit.
.
I do feel for Morelocks family but now they are just going after a Money Bag.:2cents:
MoxiGirl
03-20-2007, 10:26
Yeah, I didnt get that part either. Its really going to have an effect on the public sympathy factor.
r.k.mike
03-20-2007, 03:48
its always about the money...still unfortunate..now they will probably say it was the motorcycles fault....
JB-Deuce
03-20-2007, 05:51
I do feel for Morelocks family but now they are just going after a Money Bag.:2cents:
That's the attorney doing his job. He goes after anything & everything.
lots of suits involve third party. bottom line is-- lane killed a biker in the opposite lane of traffic. i think morelocks family should be compensated, how much is your daddy/husband/brothers life worth.
Well said, rednectum.
[QUOTE=rednecktum;66597]l i think morelocks family should be compensated, how much is your daddy/husband/brothers life worth.
iQUOTE]
They should be compensated but.
How much is a life worth?
Where does it end?
If you think like that then maybe they should sue the city for not having enough LEOs out or not enough light on the roads or maybe even the people that built the road for not having split lanes. hey why not the bartender that served him and the owner of the bar or even the girl that was with him.
What I'm getting at is Billy Lane is the only one at fault
Them are all third party.
r.k.mike
03-20-2007, 06:55
no doubt about it....
vegastype
03-21-2007, 04:53
calculated risk. if billy does something stupid, we lose so many dollars.
if he doesnt, we make lots of dodge truck sales--- the bad boy himself drives a dodge!!
I guess the bean counters were wrong this time......
pigletFXDI
03-21-2007, 05:06
driving drunk - previous arrest for same.......
$$$ might be the only language billy understands.
the law didn't seem to affect him....... :tard:
Man, I barely slept at all last night. I saw the Exs lawyer last night when we went to dinner.:cussing: They sat us next to him and Tracy just happens to know him.
Long story short Lawyers:wiz:
Archangel506
03-21-2007, 09:01
[QUOTE=rednecktum;66597]l i think morelocks family should be compensated, how much is your daddy/husband/brothers life worth.
iQUOTE]
They should be compensated but.
How much is a life worth?
Where does it end?
If you think like that then maybe they should sue the city for not having enough LEOs out or not enough light on the roads or maybe even the people that built the road for not having split lanes. hey why not the bartender that served him and the owner of the bar or even the girl that was with him.
What I'm getting at is Billy Lane is the only one at fault
Them are all third party.
The bartender can be held liable. It is illegel for anyone to sell or serve alcohol to anyone they beleive to be intoxicated. The bartender can be held criminally and civilly liable.Its part of the conditions of his license to dispense alcoholic beverages to the public.
Archangel506:angel3:
Nobody Dies A Virgin,Life Screws Us All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsdow
MoxiGirl
03-21-2007, 10:09
Ok, Im a little confused by all the quotes but whoever said Billy Lane is the only one at fault here is absolutely correct (IMO). I understand about the responsibility and liability of bartenders etc, but no one shoved the booze down his throat. His drinking was his choice. His driving was his choice. And when he made those choices he chose to risk lives....his and everyone elses that day out there on the road.
Drunk driving is the dumbest most chicken **** assinine thing a person can do nowadays. If it were only the drunks that were killed we wouldnt have a problem, let them wipe themselves out. But they kill the innocent.
Billy Lane is a murderer. Its just that his weapon was his stupidity and his vehicle.
Show No Mercy.
Archangel506
03-21-2007, 11:22
Ok, Im a little confused by all the quotes but whoever said Billy Lane is the only one at fault here is absolutely correct (IMO). I understand about the responsibility and liability of bartenders etc, but no one shoved the booze down his throat. His drinking was his choice. His driving was his choice. And when he made those choices he chose to risk lives....his and everyone elses that day out there on the road.
Drunk driving is the dumbest most chicken **** assinine thing a person can do nowadays. If it were only the drunks that were killed we wouldnt have a problem, let them wipe themselves out. But they kill the innocent.
Billy Lane is a murderer. Its just that his weapon was his stupidity and his vehicle.
Show No Mercy.
MoxiGirl:
Very well said. Billy made the choice to drive while intoxicated. Now he must accept the responsibiliy for his actions. DUI is just plain stupid. The cost for doing so can result in thousands of dollars in legal fees,fines,icreased insurance rates and mandatory jail time. Not to mention the loss of your driving privleges and DUI school. In most states it stays on you driving record for 5 years. My younger of two sons was hit and killed by a drunk driver while riding his bicycle shortly after his 9th birthday. His older brother and I,both cops, do not and will never give a drunk driver any kind of break !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Archangel506:angel3:
Nobody Dies A Virgin,Life Screws Us All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
r.k.mike
03-21-2007, 03:27
they know the rules before they get behind the wheel if they were drinking....if you want to play...sometimes you pay...
NIGHT TRAIN
03-21-2007, 04:55
I guess I don't understand this new legal phenomenom of trying to get money from any and all second, third and beyond parties...if I'm on my bike and kill someone, it's not the fault of the MOCO, the H-D dealer, the station who sold me the gas in my tank, or the bartender who "carelessly overserved" me...even tho Billy had a contract with Dodge, I'm sure that if you commit a crime with the vehicle, that doesn't imply the sponsor's consent to use that vehicle to rob a bank, or commit manslaughter. Whatever happened to holding one person responsible for one's own actions? I feel nothing but compassion for the Morelock family, but greed is greed...and I've never yet retained an attorney who could represent me in any way without my permission.
r.k.mike
03-21-2007, 05:00
should make a pole or side bets that bonehead is going to get off with nothing because of his expensive lawyers...
JB-Deuce
03-21-2007, 05:12
[QUOTE=Da-man03;66627]
The bartender can be held liable. It is illegel for anyone to sell or serve alcohol to anyone they beleive to be intoxicated. The bartender can be held criminally and civilly liable.Its part of the conditions of his license to dispense alcoholic beverages to the public.
Archangel506:angel3:
Nobody Dies A Virgin,Life Screws Us All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsdow
If someone knowingly gives a guy more drinks when he's already had too many and your loved one gets killed because of it...wouldn't you think the server had some responsibility (not all, but some)?
Even if you don't, it's still against the law to serve someone you know or should have known was drunk. If you do, you break some of the same laws Silly Lane broke.:2cents:
NIGHT TRAIN
03-21-2007, 05:15
Someone mentioned previously about how much is a family members life worth? I couldn't put a price on any of mine...just ask that justice be done to the responsible party...which is historically how these things run their course...apparently some people in this day and age, including Mr. Morelock's family, can arrive at a sum of money that will alleviate their pain & suffering from his death...I lost a sister to cancer when she was 16 years old, and my parents were so destroyed that they couldn't keep an insurance settlement...
said it felt like payment for my sister's life...and gave the money to the Cancer Society...
pigletFXDI
03-21-2007, 05:18
My younger of two sons was hit and killed by a drunk driver while riding his bicycle shortly after his 9th birthday. His older brother and I,both cops, do not and will never give a drunk driver any kind of break !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Archangel506:angel3:
Nobody Dies A Virgin,Life Screws Us All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:( for you archangel - and yes, you guys do a great job. i've also seen hard work done by law enforcement have the air let out of it by BS technicalities or other horseshiit once it hits the courts. IMO, billy needs to be hit in the wallet, too. :pissed: the third party thing just tastes bad.
JB-Deuce
03-21-2007, 05:22
Someone mentioned previously about how much is a family members life worth? I couldn't put a price on any of mine...just ask that justice be done to the responsible party...which is historically how these things run their course...apparently some people in this day and age, including Mr. Morelock's family, can arrive at a sum of money that will alleviate their pain & suffering from his death...I lost a sister to cancer when she was 16 years old, and my parents were so destroyed that they couldn't keep an insurance settlement...
said it felt like payment for my sister's life...and gave the money to the Cancer Society...
I don't think anybody...most people...can place a value on a life, or even pain & suffering for injury. Unfortunately, making some one pay financially is the onle recourse we have in our society. There are ways to calculate the loss of some things (income that a spouse or child could have received) but nothing to measure what what's really lost...LOVE & COMPANIONSHIP.
In theory, these civil suits are not intended to punish the at fault person. That's what the criminal trial's for.
I think it's hard to ask a jury of our peers to place a value on another mans life.
By the way, I'm not lawyer. Just been around this a bit.
freedius88
03-21-2007, 06:11
I have friends that I'll stand behind and do anything I can for as long as they're right. When you get on your ride or behind the wheel under the influence and f**k up I'll still back them but I can't and won't make excuses for them. We're all adults here and should know when to stop and not put other people in jeopardy. I get a company car, if I fu** it up should I blame my boss for giving it to me or take responsibility.
freedius88
03-21-2007, 07:12
They run a motor vehicle report every year. Dui is an automatic loss of the car. Two tickets in a year that stick and you lose the car for a year. Was at one of my best friends 5oth last year. I'm sittin at the bar doing shots of tequila and beer. I was the only one on 2 wheels everyone else drove their cars. Two of my buddies came over and kinda reminded me what I was doing and the consequences. Not just the loss of the co car but what I might get myself into. I'd hate to be the cause of someone elses misery because of my stupidity.
r.k.mike
03-22-2007, 01:42
its not like the old days when you would get pulled over & had a bunch of wobbly pops & the policeman would tell you to just go home NOW...that was then & its certainly diffrent today....dont want to lose my company van & the rights to my motorcycle + added insurance..
MoxiGirl
03-22-2007, 02:02
one question--------------when billy got the first dui, why did dodge not pull the truck? they had knowledge of his arrest, they knew he had their truck, they knew he lost his liscense. they are liable for providing a vehicle to a person with above liabilities and chose to let him keep it and drive it. why? for sales based on machismo?
that really was just one question!One answer....Money. Even so, they arent responsible for his actions. And Im sure they covered their *ss by having contracts signed that say Lane will use this vehicle in the manner in which it was blah blah blah.
97-FXSTSB
03-22-2007, 04:27
as moxi said, nobody but lane is responsible for his actions. i've had cars, trucks and motorcycles on similar deals from every manufacturer (I have a bike from Victory right now) and we are required to sign papers, provide proof of insurance and valid license. But, should I foolishly lose my license while in the possesion of a press vehicle, it would be up to me to make the decision not to drive it, especially when i'm drunk. until lane made headlines for crashing and killing, i doubt that Dodge had a clue what was going on with their vehicle.
NIGHT TRAIN
03-22-2007, 10:42
Yeah...what 97 said...let's keep it simple....
Archangel506
03-23-2007, 08:11
its not like the old days when you would get pulled over & had a bunch of wobbly pops & the policeman would tell you to just go home NOW...that was then & its certainly diffrent today....dont want to lose my company van & the rights to my motorcycle + added insurance..
r.k.mike:
Nowadays when a police officers stops you and determines that the operator of the motor vehicle is impared due to the ingestion of an intoxicating substance, whether it be a drug or alcohol, the police officer is responsible for that persons action from that point until they are deemed legally sober. So if the police officer lets that person operator said motor vehile while impared and as a result of that operation the driver causes severe bodily harm or death to anyone the police officer is as responsible for that action as the operator of said motor vehicle. The police officer can be prosecuted along with the operator. Now if you were the cop would you let the impared operator drive home???????????????:bugeye:
Archangel506:sick:
Nobody Dies A Virgin,Life Screws Us All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:idea:
I'm no lawyer and I don't have all of the details in the case, but maybe Dodge was named in the case for technical reasons. Maybe one of Lane's defenses is that the truck malfunctioned which caused it to change lanes abruptly. Or maybe Dodge has been named by the Morelock's to prove there was no fault found with the truck? I don't know, just throwing that out there. I have no idea how these trials work, but I'm sure with the money Lane has and his powerful defense team, the state needs to have all the i's dotted and t's crossed. Just a possible theory other than money...
Archangel506
03-23-2007, 10:42
I'm no lawyer and I don't have all of the details in the case, but maybe Dodge was named in the case for technical reasons. Maybe one of Lane's defenses is that the truck malfunctioned which caused it to change lanes abruptly. Or maybe Dodge has been named by the Morelock's to prove there was no fault found with the truck? I don't know, just throwing that out there. I have no idea how these trials work, but I'm sure with the money Lane has and his powerful defense team, the state needs to have all the i's dotted and t's crossed. Just a possible theory other than money...
If what I've read about this case is factual Billy may possibly get a walk on this one as far as criminal charges are concerned. It is my understanding that the Florida police officer told Billy had no choice but to take the BAC test.
This is not true. The Implied Consent Law reads That if you refuse the BAC test none will be given,however you will be charged will violation of the Implied Consent Law and your driving privileges will be suspended for up to 6 months. You do have a choice. You have the right not to incriminate yourself. 5th Amendment rights. For the Flordia police officer to tell Lane he had to take the BAC could be considered coersion. A violation of his 5th amendment rights. If all this is factual wether right or wrong it looks as though they,the police, may have Dropped The Ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I beleive that Lane should be held accountable for his action,however he may not have to. He can still have a civil suit filed aganist him for wrongful death reguardless of the outcome of the criminal charges just like OJ.
Arcahngel506:angel:
NobodyDies A Virgin,Life Screws Us All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsdow
NIGHT TRAIN
03-23-2007, 08:18
degressing-------------------------- twas a nice debate. on other forums, there woulda been name calling and clowndestine activities by now.
peace
Ain't that the truth...I found this place from a link on Club Chopper...nothin' but flames over there lately....haven't been back since...I much prefer the open minded discussion I see here...opinions are just opinions...and we need to respect the other guy's right to express his...IMHO
Archangel506
03-26-2007, 08:35
Ain't that the truth...I found this place from a link on Club Chopper...nothin' but flames over there lately....haven't been back since...I much prefer the open minded discussion I see here...opinions are just opinions...and we need to respect the other guy's right to express his...IMHO
Night Train:
DITTO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:metoo:
Archangel506:crazy:
Nobody Dies A Virgin,Life Screws Us All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nana:
tadcoelec8
03-26-2007, 08:43
Billy Is In Deep Poop, He Will Be Lucky To Have A Pair Of Socks After The Legal System Eats Away At His Empire. Too Bad So Sad!
FSFTS18E
03-26-2007, 05:14
Here is my take on this and this is only because I have been up for over 27 hours and some of my best ideas occur during this time frame…. Our drug and alcohol induced actors, entertainers and so called role models that mean so much to the bored sheep of society and the money makers with the hippest styles and latest trends are sometimes put above the law to safe guard entertainment for the sheep and investment and/or possible increase of income for the rich. God forbid if you mess with a wealthy person’s money and a bored person’s entertainment. To me no one gives a rat’s bum when a no name takes the life of a loved one. When was the last time a lawyer out of the kindness of his or her heart represented a client because of justice and not for the big money percentage. This is a chance for some lawyer to make giant bank. That’s how I fell about it and I apologize for the psycho babble. i'm gonna try to make one of those cool smilies, if it works that would be awsome! :banana:
r.k.mike
03-26-2007, 05:24
well said..my opinions also.
well said..my opinions also.
You hit the nail right on the head, Eric.
Any updates on Lane?
Well, I answered my own question. Googled lane, and the latest is that his next hearing has been postponed, until September.
His high priced lawyers are very good at evading justice.
Makes me want to puke.
NIGHT TRAIN
08-13-2007, 09:26
You know what they say, Rick...in this country, you get just as much justice as you can pay for!........:thumbsdow
We seen every other builder that's been on TV except him. Even his buddy that does his own bikes now. I wonder if he is going to rallies?:freak:
97-FXSTSB
08-13-2007, 10:00
Lane :wiz:
Branner_68
08-13-2007, 10:05
Da-man, you didn't see him at Sturgis? He was at Bike Week.
From what I've heard, the guy on the moped may have been drinking as well. Archangel said a while back that "Nothing good comes out of drunk driving." No matter how you feel about Lane, that statement is spot on.
Archangel506
08-13-2007, 10:29
You know what they say, Rick...in this country, you get just as much justice as you can pay for!........:thumbsdow
AMEN BROTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!:wtf: :omg: :metoo:
Archangel506:bike:
97-FXSTSB
08-13-2007, 11:08
Da-man, you didn't see him at Sturgis? He was at Bike Week.
From what I've heard, the guy on the moped may have been drinking as well. Archangel said a while back that "Nothing good comes out of drunk driving." No matter how you feel about Lane, that statement is spot on.
i read that too. alcohol in his system. not drunk. info brought about by lane's power attorneys to cloud the issue. but morelock wasn't speeding or riding out of his zone.
oh and almost forgot... Lane:wiz:
NIGHT TRAIN
08-13-2007, 12:29
Lane got a serious haircut, too...if you don't look close, you might not recognize him.
Lane got a serious haircut, too...if you don't look close, you might not recognize him.
Yeah, I saw that, too.
Long hair, short hair....still a buttwipe, and a murderer.
Another pretty face for Bubba's Dance Emporium at Raiford. He won't be leading any waltz's over there. After a month he would be able to sit on a fire hydrant and walk away with it. His dance card in hell will be filled if there is indeed justice or God. I am losing faith in both anymore when I see this stuff drug out until people lose track and start saying who cares.
Let the music begin.
Jon
Another pretty face for Bubba's Dance Emporium at Raiford. He won't be leading any waltz's over there. After a month he would be able to sit on a fire hydrant and walk away with it. His dance card in hell will be filled if there is indeed justice or God. I am losing faith in both anymore when I see this stuff drug out until people lose track and start saying who cares.
Let the music begin.
Jon
:lol: Jon, you crack me up. Good one, and I hope it's eventually true. :lol:
Da-man, you didn't see him at Sturgis? He was at Bike Week.
From what I've heard, the guy on the moped may have been drinking as well. Archangel said a while back that "Nothing good comes out of drunk driving." No matter how you feel about Lane, that statement is spot on.
Nope, I wasn't looking for him, Tracy was. She still wants her pic taken with him.
johnnyj77
08-13-2007, 07:20
[QUOTE=Archangel506;67572]If what I've read about this case is factual Billy may possibly get a walk on this one as far as criminal charges are concerned. It is my understanding that the Florida police officer told Billy had no choice but to take the BAC test.
This is not true. The Implied Consent Law reads That if you refuse the BAC test none will be given,however you will be charged will violation of the Implied Consent Law and your driving privileges will be suspended for up to 6 months. You do have a choice. You have the right not to incriminate yourself. 5th Amendment rights. For the Flordia police officer to tell Lane he had to take the BAC could be considered coersion. A violation of his 5th amendment rights. If all this is factual wether right or wrong it looks as though they,the police, may have Dropped The Ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I beleive that Lane should be held accountable for his action,however he may not have to. He can still have a civil suit filed aganist him for wrongful death reguardless of the outcome of the criminal charges just like OJ.
Arcahngel506:angel:
When you are involved in an accident when someone else that gets hurt or especially killed the police can make you summit a bac according to my cop buddy here in illinois...
BigBearMike
08-13-2007, 10:24
If what I've read about this case is factual Billy may possibly get a walk on this one as far as criminal charges are concerned. It is my understanding that the Florida police officer told Billy had no choice but to take the BAC test.
This is not true. The Implied Consent Law reads That if you refuse the BAC test none will be given,however you will be charged will violation of the Implied Consent Law and your driving privileges will be suspended for up to 6 months. You do have a choice. You have the right not to incriminate yourself. 5th Amendment rights. For the Flordia police officer to tell Lane he had to take the BAC could be considered coersion. A violation of his 5th amendment rights. If all this is factual wether right or wrong it looks as though they,the police, may have Dropped The Ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I beleive that Lane should be held accountable for his action,however he may not have to. He can still have a civil suit filed aganist him for wrongful death reguardless of the outcome of the criminal charges just like OJ.
Arcahngel506:angel:
NobodyDies A Virgin,Life Screws Us All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsdow
Sorry to inform you but here in Florida the law states if you are involved in a crash that involves death or serious injury you can be forced to submit.
Read this, right out of the Florida statutes.....
Chemical or Physical Test Provisions (Implied Consent Law)-s. 316.1932, F.S., s. 316.1933, F.S., s. 316.1934, F.S, s. 316.1939, F.S
Refusal: Refusal to submit to a breath, urine, or blood test is admissible as evidence in DUI criminal proceedings. Second or subsequent refusal is a misdemeanor of the first degree.
Driver License Suspension Periods: First refusal, suspended for 1 year. Second or subsequent refusals, suspended for 18 months.
Commercial Driver License Disqualification Periods: First refusal in a commercial motor vehicle, disqualified for 1 year. Second or subsequent refusals in a commercial motor vehicle, disqualified permanently. No hardship reinstatement permitted.
Forceful Withdrawal of Blood: If necessary, blood may be withdrawn in DUI cases involving serious bodily injury or death by authorized medical personnel with the use of reasonable force by the arresting officer, even if the driver refuses.
Unconscious: Any person who is incapable of refusal by reason of unconsciousness or other mental or physical condition shall be deemed not to have withdrawn his consent to such test. A blood test may be administered whether or not such person is told that his failure to submit to such a blood test will result in the suspension of his privilege to operate a motor vehicle.
Portable Alcohol Breath Testing Devices: Authorized by s.322.2616, F.S., for persons under the age of 21. Reading is admissible as evidence in any administrative hearing conducted under s. 322.2616, F.S.
Billy's wallet full of lawyers won't get around that I don't think......
The creep and Daimler Chrysler has already settled the civil suit with family of rider. The states case was to be heard on Aug. 17th but now it's been postponed according to a post on this site.
Lucifer is waiting on you Billy, Come on Down!!!
Jon
Archangel506
08-14-2007, 08:36
Lawyers are very good at dragging things out. The more time passes the less the effect of the crime has on the public and a jury. Several years ago I had a DUI case that involved a fatality. It was the guys 7th DUI,but on his record it only showed a DUI #1 because all the others had been pled back to a DUI #1 to avoid a trial. Most prosecutors will do this due to heavy case loads and understaffing. Its not right however it is common practice. Anyway the case was postponed several time do to motions filed by the defense and didn't go to court for two years. The guy got a fine ,license suspension,and DUI school just like the 7 previous DUI's. Nothing for the death of the guy he killed. The state could not prove malicous intent,therefore no charges were filed for the fatality. There is no such thing as Equal Justice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:poster_oops:
Archangel506:usaflag:
droopy73
08-14-2007, 08:38
You said it! I can't believe he's still not in court on this.....what a bunch of sh*t.
1 Sober Rider
08-14-2007, 08:52
I hope that Billy IS held accountable in EVERY possible fashion, if it was you or I you bet yer ass that we would certainly be held accountable, and probably be sitting in jail awaiting the decision...
Archangel506
08-14-2007, 09:10
Sorry to inform you but here in Florida the law states if you are involved in a crash that involves death or serious injury you can be forced to submit.
Read this, right out of the Florida statutes.....
Chemical or Physical Test Provisions (Implied Consent Law)-s. 316.1932, F.S., s. 316.1933, F.S., s. 316.1934, F.S, s. 316.1939, F.S
Refusal: Refusal to submit to a breath, urine, or blood test is admissible as evidence in DUI criminal proceedings. Second or subsequent refusal is a misdemeanor of the first degree.
Driver License Suspension Periods: First refusal, suspended for 1 year. Second or subsequent refusals, suspended for 18 months.
Commercial Driver License Disqualification Periods: First refusal in a commercial motor vehicle, disqualified for 1 year. Second or subsequent refusals in a commercial motor vehicle, disqualified permanently. No hardship reinstatement permitted.
Forceful Withdrawal of Blood: If necessary, blood may be withdrawn in DUI cases involving serious bodily injury or death by authorized medical personnel with the use of reasonable force by the arresting officer, even if the driver refuses.
Unconscious: Any person who is incapable of refusal by reason of unconsciousness or other mental or physical condition shall be deemed not to have withdrawn his consent to such test. A blood test may be administered whether or not such person is told that his failure to submit to such a blood test will result in the suspension of his privilege to operate a motor vehicle.
Portable Alcohol Breath Testing Devices: Authorized by s.322.2616, F.S., for persons under the age of 21. Reading is admissible as evidence in any administrative hearing conducted under s. 322.2616, F.S.
Billy's wallet full of lawyers won't get around that I don't think......
Excellent!!!!!!!!!! not so here in Arkansas.We need it here. I'm on it. Will contact all my state legislators to see if we can get the ball rolling to amend the state implied consent law here to include it. Also I'll get MADD involved.
Thanks for the info it is greatly appreciated. this is another example of why this is the best motorcycle forum on the net !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:teacher:
Archangel506 :yank:
BigBearMike
08-14-2007, 09:13
It makes you wonder about someones personal integrity..... I say if you do the crime then be willing to do the time. I don't think I could go out, get drunk and kill someone without surrendering to the fact I'd plead guilty and just do the time! No questions asked, no hiding behind money, no putting off what needs answering for!
It's a pretty weak man who runs from the responsibilities of his actions.....
Archangel506
08-14-2007, 10:13
It makes you wonder about someones personal integrity..... I say if you do the crime then be willing to do the time. I don't think I could go out, get drunk and kill someone without surrendering to the fact I'd plead guilty and just do the time! No questions asked, no hiding behind money, no putting off what needs answering for!
It's a pretty weak man who runs from the responsibilities of his actions.....
BigBear:
If everyone took responsibility for their actions it would put lawyers out of business:thumb: Lawyers would be forced to look elsewhere for work like cleaning out sceptic tanks. Being scum sucking bottom feeder they'd be good at it.
Archangel506:usaflag:
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