Janklow Gets 100 Days in Jail for Killing

[OldCutlass]

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/newsandupdates/janklowsentence/

I guess a bikers life isn't worth much in South Dakota.

I guess I won't be going there anytime soon.

[wideglide4jesus]

This is ugly!!! I like the idea of boycoting Sturgis, how about everybody skip sutrugis and go to the "Little Sturgis" forgot where it is at, or how about going to Minn. to visit his grave site during the time of Sturgis??


Did he have family??

Peace

Joker

[Deuce02]

100 days for taking a life doesn't seem like a fair sentence. He still has to live with what he did but that's just not enough and it sends the wrong message. :gun2: :nut:

[Dyna Jim]

I'm a firm believer in the punishment fitting the crime, now who do we punish for the crime of this sentence? :death:

[OldCutlass]

Wanna know who to punish?

South Dakota.

Don't go to Sturgis and make it known why.

There is a discussion about this taking place in a certain forum that tends to zone in on Harleys.

It might be a good idea to check it out.

The death of a fellow biker transcends all.

Peace.
O.C.

[Dyna Jim]

I agree OC, and let me be the first to note I won't be going to Sturgis this year! This sounds good but I wasn't going anyways, too much work, and too little time on my hands.

It's very hard to convince the masses to avoid doing something fun because of a tragedy like this. And to boot, it's not the towns fault, it's our judicial system that failed us again.... I wish people were more moral, and would stand up for whats right, but chances of this hurting Sturgis are next to none.

Just like everyone boycotting Laughlin last year, they even had a Screw Laughlin rally here in pheonix. It hurt the overall number of people a bit, but there were still bikes as far as I could see, and to be honest it probably just made the crowds less imposing for the rest of us.

I think maybe a petition, or everyone contacting that politicians office with complaints etc. Make him feel shunned by society for what he's done, he deserves it. :mad3:

Where he's really going to feel the pain, unfortunately like everything else these days is in his pocketbook. The civil suit will get him, but thats not justice IMHO, thats just covering up the pain of a loved one lost.

We were burglarzed a while back, and they caught the people who did it. It hurts me to tell you they spent more time in jail for robbing us, than this fellow will for taking a life. :mad3:

[OldCutlass]

You are right. I know you are right. I don't know what prompted the "Screw Laughlin Rally " but am interested to find out.

Even though I know you are right and it's possible that all of this will be forgotten by the time Sturgis comes around, an attempt must be made. The time to make that attempt is now. Strike while the iron is hot.

Check out other motorcycle related websites. It's all anyone is talking about. Check out the AMA's website:

http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/2004/janksent.asp

They're not happy either. I'm a peace-loving man. Live and let live, but this kind of thing makes my blood boil.

How else do you drive the point home? How do you tell the State of SD that we don't agree with the way they de-value human life?

Politics is money. You want to be heard, you have to speak their language.

My $.02

Peace.
O.C.

[Wind]

Flood the Governors office with letters. Who is the governor of SD?
How much you wanna bet he doesn't even serve the full 100 days.

[Dyna Jim]

Maybe everyone should complain to the judge who sentenced him?

Are the judges in SD appointed by the Gov? Maybe theres some payback at work here?

I dunno, but to punish a town who's main source of income and fame is the rally seems wrong to me. :ignore:

[MIALMA]

I posted this exact thought elsewhere and apologize for that, but it sums up my feelings about this pretty concisely and I didn't want to stray by trying to remember:

Never been to Sturgis, but was planning to go either this year or next. I've always heard that the "good people" of Sturgis and the surrounding areas jack up their hotel, food, gas, etc. prices exponentially and that they have gotten into a habit of raping their vendors with fees, fines and unrealistic restrictions. (Can be found as editorial comments in Easy Rider, Hot Bike, Hot Rod Bike, etc.)

I could care less about the "good people" of Sturgis and the surrounding areas if that truly is their attitude. Several of you have pointed out that the loss of income is probably the only thing they (SD State delegates) will understand, and I agree. While my boycotting is insignificant (due to the fact that it is somewhat difficult to boycott something you've never used/participated in) the boycotting of vendors and those bikers that have been to the rally is.

If those comments and rumors of overcharging and hoop jumping are true - then the environment is already naturally RIPE for something like this to occur.

[Dyna Jim]

In any "Tourist" environment, your going to have price gouging and inflated rates. Anyone been to a fair lately, maybe an amusement park? It bothers me too when rooms get jacked up to high heaven and gas doubles, but thats the american way. You have the choice not to participate, and that may be your way of saying enough is enough! But so many people will go anyways, just for the thrill, for the chance to say they've been etc. And trying to form a boycott will be a loosing position IMHO.

Throwing a rope over a tree branch and dragging this guy out there wouldn't be any better than what he's gotten away with. So what can you do?

I think honestly, if you make enough noise to the right people, you can get someone to take notice and maybe throw it out on the news. But thinking your going to stop sturgis and hurt SD by not attending isn't going to accomplish what you want. I think T-shirts are a good idea, and also think they should be for more than just Scott, we should remember everyone who's been lost to this same sort of circumstance within this fight.

Saying your going to boycott Sturgis is like taking your bat and ball and going home. To me, making a Huge statement about it at... Sturgis would be a better way to gain needed attention. Maybe at the rally everyone could gather and have a silent moment, sell T-shirts about it, whatever. I think many are missing the oppertunity to make your feelings known at this grand event, where you have masses of like minded people and the eyes of a nation upon you.

Just my .02

[Wind]

If anyone is interested,
The governor of South Dakota is M. Mike Rounds
His address is:
Gov. Mike Rounds
500 E. Capitol Avenue
Pierre, SD 57501

His office phone number is: 605-773-3212

His web site is: www.state.sd.us/governor/
you can e-mail him from the site.

[Scruffy]

The Ole lady had the idea of a bunch of us getting arrested the same time he serves his sentence. The things we could do to him...over and over! Scruff :spank:

[Maalox]

Saying your going to boycott Sturgis is like taking your bat and ball and going home. To me, making a Huge statement about it at... Sturgis would be a better way to gain needed attention. Maybe at the rally everyone could gather and have a silent moment, sell T-shirts about it, whatever. I think many are missing the oppertunity to make your feelings known at this grand event, where you have masses of like minded people and the eyes of a nation upon you.

Just my .02


Going to have to disagree with you her DJ. A serious boycott will be the only way to get the attention of the SD population.

A few people with posters and banners, crying and such. PaLease, the locals would love this as they could sell extra cheesy crap supporting the protest. They could even sell smores to all the little biker chicks crying in their leather bikinis.

I say hit them where they live, how may of those towns would fold without the yearly income from the Sturgis rally? I'm not talking about only small businesses going bust, but whole towns would dry up and blow away without this yearly windfall.

I'll be spending my money elsewhere.

[Deuce02]

Maalox, realistically, people will show up for Sturgis regardless. I understand your anger and feel the same,but I don't think there's much that anyone or any group can do now. He can't be retried and the victim can't be brought back. It's over and the decision, however poor, has been made. The man goes to jail and his political career is over. Hopefully he'll pay out the poop shute in the civil case.:spank:

[Maalox]

This a state that elected Janklow and also Tom Daschle. These guys are way left and easy on criminals of all types. Politicians listen to their voters yes but even more to the special interests within there constituency. Will everyone stay away no, but if the numbers are down significantly (and the message is sent why the numbers are down) the CVB and others city leaders will be on the phone in no time.

I agree that you can't change what happened in this case but you can send a message so when it happans again the results are different. Sticking your head in the sand and thinking "this could never happen to me" is not the answer.

From what I am reading elsewhere there might be one of two others that share my opinion... I wouldn't give up on the power of the common man just yet.

[Deuce02]

Maalox, it can happen again and probably will, but we'll only hear about it if some prominent figure is involved, otherwise it'll just be another accident.

[Dyna Jim]

I'll say it again, Boycotting Sturgis is not realistic, but go ahead and try.

Just watch how many of your buddies go anyways..... :mad:

[Maalox]

I'll say it again, Boycotting Sturgis is not realistic, but go ahead and try.

Just watch how many of your buddies go anyways..... :mad:


You guys give up to easy :tongue2:

Let's at least get a week of dreaming in before reality hits :bounce1:

[Deuce02]

Maalox, we can always hope that there are some bikers in prison with Janklow and they beat the living crap out of him. Or maybe make him their beoch.

[Wind]

Scruff & Deuce02,
you and any other "bikers" are going to be out into a real prison. Not the hotel suite he'll be in.

[Deuce02]

Scruff & Deuce02,
you and any other "bikers" are going to be out into a real prison. Not the hotel suite he'll be in.

Wind, hopefully I won't be in any prison. :shifty:

You may be right, but I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life with that death on my mind. He's has his own little prison inside his head. I'm sure not a day goes by that he doesn't think about what happened. He can sit in his little country club cell and think about it. I hope he's feeling the pain the victim's family feels from his irresponsible act.

[Scruffy]

Yea Wind you're probably right! Scruff

[Silver]

I posted the below message at another site, but include here as well:

I too was personally saddened with the sentencing. My sadness would be the same though if the one killed had been a soccer mom, a FedEx driver, a kid waiting for a bus, or any other innocent life taken so tragically. I was not at the trial nor did I review the evidence, however, so I hesitate to presume this is a case of either extreme favoritism for Janklow and/or some overt statewide expression against motorcyclists – at least, not yet.

In reading these posts, I greatly empathize with the anger and frustration members have expressed. I also agree these emotions should be marshaled toward effective actions and the memory of Mr. Scott – as well as others killed so unfortunately. I do not feel that boycotting Sturgis, however, would indeed be one of the most effective actions.

Boycotts have sometimes achieved results, but only when done directly to the ‘offending’ entity and when advocating for a specific change. Avoiding Sturgis with the hopes of impacting local residents enough to take some unspecified action doesn’t seem to me to be the best use of our expressed passion on this issue. It’s essentially attempting to punish someone with the assumption that they in turn will punish someone else and do so in a way that will result in that ‘someone else’ changing in the particular way you wanted them to. I believe this process would at best dilute the objectives we seem to share, and at worst degenerate into further negative feelings and/or inactivity on what needs improved in our laws and justice systems.

I think a better approach might be to advocate 'positive' actions versus negative ones. Establish a scholarship fund or charitable trust in Mr. Scott’s name and you’ve got my check. Ask riders to better support motorcycle advocacy groups like the AMA or ABATE and you’ll get more of my money and time. Set up a letter campaign to advocate for specific legislative changes and I’ll enlist friends and family – including several in SD. Organize a demonstration in Sturgis this year to do all of the above, and I’ll be there with you.

I’m not in any way saying that a boycott is a ‘wrong’ idea. I’m simply suggesting that there are likely other ways that might get more direct and specific action on this. What’s done is done, regretfully. I believe the key now is to cater to the needs of Mr. Scott’s family and work toward the improved safety and defense of our chosen activity – riding. (IMHO)

My prayers go out to Mr. Scott's family.

[MIALMA]

"You may be right, but I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life with that death on my mind. He's has his own little prison inside his head. I'm sure not a day goes by that he doesn't think about what happened. He can sit in his little country club cell and think about it. I hope he's feeling the pain the victim's family feels from his irresponsible act."

From what I've read about this guy, the only thing he'll lament is losing his cushy government job and all of the perks that come with it. Maybe, if after he gets his license back in three years, he'll go and do the same ... but as a regular citizen he'll get the sentence he deserved in the first place.

[ZMAN]

I agree that what the irresponsible Old Fart got was not anything close to justice, but to Boycott Strugis and hurt the people that live in Strugis is not really fair. I have many friends that live there and they are just as mad about this as us outside the State of South Dakota. The only reform is to elect Judges that work to the Law and no at it.
I understand the statement many want to make to the Judicial System in South Dakota by boycotting the rally, and some may, and some won't. I fault no one for their view on this, but I think the true message HAS to be sent by the people of the State, and granted a Boycott may aid in their effort, but face it, Strugis has grown beyond itself, and to make an impact you would need to have 300,000 people at least not going to make a true impact, and I don't see that happening.
I respect the opinions posted here. I am only adding my 2 cents, and hope that ABATE and everyother Motorcycle riders group, as well as the people of South Dakota, lobby for a more justice aligned system against those that irresposibly kill Bikers no matter who they are, or what they do for a living.

[Dyna Jim]

I agree that what the irresponsible Old Fart got was not anything close to justice, but to Boycott Strugis and hurt the people that live in Strugis is not really fair. I have many friends that live there and they are just as mad about this as us outside the State of South Dakota. The only reform is to elect Judges that work to the Law and no at it.
I understand the statement many want to make to the Judicial System in South Dakota by boycotting the rally, and some may, and some won't. I fault no one for their view on this, but I think the true message HAS to be sent by the people of the State, and granted a Boycott may aid in their effort, but face it, Strugis has grown beyond itself, and to make an impact you would need to have 300,000 people at least not going to make a true impact, and I don't see that happening.
I respect the opinions posted here. I am only adding my 2 cents, and hope that ABATE and everyother Motorcycle riders group, as well as the people of South Dakota, lobby for a more justice aligned system against those that irresposibly kill Bikers no matter who they are, or what they do for a living.

Well said.. :thumbsup:

[Wind]

MiAlma,
Get real!
1. He doesn't feel the pain Randy Scott's family is feeling.
2. He may have lost his job but I bet he still gets his pension and retirement.
3. If he does it again I still don't believe he would be sentenced the same as you or I would.

[ZMAN]

I posted this exact thought elsewhere and apologize for that, but it sums up my feelings about this pretty concisely and I didn't want to stray by trying to remember:

Never been to Sturgis, but was planning to go either this year or next. I've always heard that the "good people" of Sturgis and the surrounding areas jack up their hotel, food, gas, etc. prices exponentially and that they have gotten into a habit of raping their vendors with fees, fines and unrealistic restrictions. (Can be found as editorial comments in Easy Rider, Hot Bike, Hot Rod Bike, etc.)

I could care less about the "good people" of Sturgis and the surrounding areas if that truly is their attitude. Several of you have pointed out that the loss of income is probably the only thing they (SD State delegates) will understand, and I agree. While my boycotting is insignificant (due to the fact that it is somewhat difficult to boycott something you've never used/participated in) the boycotting of vendors and those bikers that have been to the rally is.

If those comments and rumors of overcharging and hoop jumping are true - then the environment is already naturally RIPE for something like this to occur.

I am confused. . . You write in opinion " the boycotting of vendors and those bikers that have been to the rally is."Am I to understand that you boycott me because I have been to Strugis? Maybe I am just reading you wrong, which I hope is the case. To boycott or chastize me because I have been and will go again is just wrong on many levels. That is akin to telling me I am wrong for using butter and not margarine, or because my driving through Kansas on the way to Strugis caused a Tornado that killed someone, or destroyed property. I hope as I said before I am just reading you wrong, but if not, please take a reality check on your view. You have your opinion and I respect that, but in return how about some respect back.
ZMAN

[Deuce02]

:playnice:

[MIALMA]

Relax ... or are you looking for problems? True, what I wrote does have a syntax problem: what I should have written was "While my boycotting is insignificant the boycotting by vendors and those bikers that have been to the rally is".
As far as you unloading on me goes - it's uncalled for.

[Wind]

Don't go off just because all money making venues in the Sturgis area raise their rates during the bike rally. This is so typical its expected. Travel anywhere and you'll run into "in season" and "off season" rates. Its part of tourism. Its a lot cheaper to go on a cruise to the Bahamas in August then it is in January. My family and I were in Deadwood, SD and the rates were good. Because not every hotel room for miles was booked. Supply and demand.

[Dyna Jim]

Seems the penalty of sentence was in line with SD justice system.

Here's the article : http://www.americanmotor.com/news.cfm?newsid=2247
:errr: